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BRET BAIER: Let’s bring in the aforementioned panel. Jeff Mason, White Residence Correspondent for Reuters. Matthew Continetti, fellow on the American Endeavor Institute, Fox Recordsdata Correspondent Gillian Turner who as soon as served on the National Security Council beneath Presidents Bush and Obama and we mute dangle Jen Griffin on the Pentagon.
Gillian, let me starting up with you. Your thoughts about this. And you know, this warning is barely ordinary for a nationwide security adviser to reach lend a hand out and articulate this and to assert American citizens there have to salvage out now.
GILLIAN TURNER, FOX NEWS CHANNEL CORRESPONDENT: It’s some distance highly ordinary, Bret. Talking to nationwide security sources recently, they articulate the administration has been very emphatic, asserting they’d per chance additionally now not ship U.S. military in to risk their lives on behalf of American citizens caught in Ukraine.
They articulate that in the lend a hand of the scenes, they hope the messaging is fully various and that the Biden crew is asserting we can reach to the protection and reduction of American citizens wherever they are on the planet, on every occasion they reach beneath assault.
I will be able to even articulate that at this slack hour as an invasion is reportedly an increasing number of seemingly, deterrence is mute now not needless. I’ve been speaking to sources all day who show us there are mute alternate strategies on hand, potent alternate strategies on hand to the Biden administration.
One in every of them would possibly perchance perchance per chance be a chip blockade on Russia. It’s something the nationwide security crew has talked about in the past. They’ve threatened to prevent the sale of U.S. made semiconductors to the Russians straight in the occasion that they invade Ukraine. They would possibly perchance perchance per chance additionally implement that now to sizable detrimental halt.
BAIER: Sure, Jeff, the President fade into Camp David, he goes to dangle this very high profile and final-ditch effort it looks per respectable’s effort at diplomacy in a mobile phone name with Russian leader Vladimir Putin. Is there a sense that here is inevitable there on the White Residence?
JEFF MASON, WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT, REUTERS: I salvage now not know that there would possibly perchance be a sense that it is inevitable. However undoubtedly, they they felt the have to reach lend a hand out and give a ambitious warning recently. And I mediate you would possibly perchance perchance per chance additionally very smartly be wonderful to assert that the following day is feels at least a limited bit bit adore a final-ditch effort that there will seemingly be plenty using on that name between President Biden and President Putin.
What modified into also titillating to me recently, Bret, namely from Jake Sullivan, when he came to the podium modified into him variety of describing what they mediate he would possibly perchance perchance well salvage if he does pick to invade Ukraine, that here is now not wonderful going for a portion of Ukraine adore they did in 2014 with Crimea, nonetheless if truth be told warning of airstrikes on Kyiv, and trying to rob over sizable swaths of the nation.
So, that’s extra than I even dangle heard them fade sooner than describing what the functionality risks are from this — from this Russian invasion and whether it is inevitable or now not, they’re clearly concerned.
BAIER: Staunch. Matthew, here is Customary Jack Keane earlier recently on the Ukrainians.
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GEN. JACK KEANE (RET.), FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: The Ukrainians are outmatched here by the Russian military. Right here’s a mixed arms military that’s going to sinister that border on the highest affirm of its preparation. They typically’re no match for that.
Will they fight? Sure. Will they existing braveness? Sure. Will they be casualties on each aspects? Indubitably. However the consequence is predictable.
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BAIER: And from the President’s Twitter feed, he tweeted, I spoke recently with transatlantic leaders to disclose about our concerns about Russia’s military buildup round Ukraine. We’re united in our diplomatic efforts and deterrence measures and are ready to impose big economic prices if Russia chooses extra aggression.
In most cases, what they’ve been asserting, Matthew, However the titillating thing modified into American citizens in Ukraine 30,000 of them salvage out interior 24 to 48 hours. However we the U.S. military are now not coming in to enable you to. I imply, these echoes of Afghanistan, does it now not?
MATTHEW CONTINETTI, FOUNDING EDITOR, WASHINGTON FREE BEACON: It does. And we ought to be troubled about that for the safety of the The united states — of American citizens.
You understand, Bret, I mediate Biden has completed a fairly wonderful job of conserving the alliance in line towards Putin’s aggression in Ukraine up to now. The test will seemingly be what occurs if an invasion occurs? And can mute the administration be ready to battle thru with those sanctions? Will Germany conform to halt down Nord Drag 2? Will the Alliance conform to continue sending arms to the Ukrainians as they’re combating towards the Russian warfare machine?
All these questions are up in the air. And if we discover on the arrangement that Biden has handled past crises, I’m now not so definite we ought to be assured that he’ll be ready to address this one.
BAIER: Jennifer Griffin on the Pentagon. There would possibly perchance be clearly a vary of peril in the U.S. that something occurs and triggers U.S. military trudge or U.S. military trudge.
Presently, every little thing coming from the Pentagon is that these troops are doing what in the safe of abode?
GRIFFIN: Well, it is fully certain from paying attention to Jake Sullivan and from our sources here on the Pentagon. These forces rob into myth, here is simplest just a few thousand contributors of the 82nd Airborne, they dangle got now not mobilized the 40,000 NATO ready force that will circulate into the Baltics and into the frontline states.
They’ve now not completed that but, for a reason. They’re trying to be very calibrated to now not play into Putin’s propaganda that NATO is by some potential the aggressor here. These are defensive forces. They’re from that identical group in the 82nd Airborne and beneath the equivalent commander, Predominant Customary Chris Donahue, who oversaw the evacuation of 124,000 other folks from Afghanistan in August.
That is now not by twist of destiny, there are — there would possibly perchance be a perception that many American citizens would possibly perchance perchance per chance additionally dangle to reach lend a hand out overland. It’s a extraordinarily flat drive from Kyiv to Poland to the Polish border, to Romania, and folks U.S. troops would possibly perchance perchance per chance be there to again them.
The reason here is various than Afghanistan, the rationale that they are warning American citizens to rob the business flights out now and to drive all the arrangement thru the border now would possibly perchance perchance per chance be that here’s a extraordinarily various warfare zone than it modified into in Afghanistan. The Taliban didn’t dangle an Air Drive. They didn’t adjust the airspace, Russia will adjust the airspace and it would possibly perchance well per chance per chance be some distance too unhealthy for 2 nuclear powers to be crisscrossing in the Ukraine airspace. And so, that’s why the warnings to the American citizens to circulate away.
BAIER: Sure, wonderful point. Posthaste, Gillian, for the those that articulate, why is Putin doing this? Why — I imply, you studied Vladimir Putin. Why is he on this activity wonderful now? Is this a feint to rob a discover at to salvage something? What’s the incentive in the lend a hand of this?
TURNER: Well, Putin’s world vision has now not modified since sooner than the Berlin Wall. He’s deeply, ethically, spiritually, politically dedicated to recapturing just among the glory of the Soviet Union. He believes now not wonderful that he can reinstate Soviet satellite states, nonetheless that every person among these free states, objective countries are mute fragment of Russia, inherently and repeatedly will seemingly be and here is candy an actualization of something that exists variety of in nature.
BAIER: I simplest dangle 15 seconds, Jeff, nonetheless salvage you imagine that there would possibly perchance be a hope in the White Residence that by some potential this mobile phone name goes to alternate historic past?
JEFF MASON, WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT, REUTERS: I salvage mediate they’re valid after they articulate they desire diplomacy to work. Sure. However I would also mediate they’re trying to be sensible. And per the warnings that we’ve got viewed up to now, I mediate they’re awaiting it now not necessarily to be the object that modifications every little thing.
BAIER: OK. Thanks focused on being here. We’ll test lend a hand for breaking news, and panel, we are going to behold you later in the remark.
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BAIER: All wonderful, the Friday Lightning Spherical begins with hide mandates and what’s going on politically with that. We are lend a hand with our panel Gillian, Jeff, and Matthew. Jeff, you heard the president in that interview with Lester Holt, a fraction of which would possibly perchance air sooner than the Sizable Bowl on NBC, asserting he’s going to stay to the science. However the science in these Democratic governors’ eyes has modified.
JEFF MASON, WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT, “REUTERS”: Well, and the science, or the knowledge, anyway, has also modified. And I mediate that the White Dwelling is asserting, as smartly, they’d per chance additionally mute apply the knowledge. The science has now not modified in phrases of vivid that masks stop the transmission of virus. It’s the amount of virus that’s available and whether it is at an appropriate level for folks to rob extra of a risk without wearing those masks. That is the debate.
BAIER: Sure. Gillian, what has positively modified is the politics dangle modified.
GILLIAN TURNER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Sure. You understand, the president also told Lester Holt in that interview that he believes the science mute reveals that hide work, which begs the test why he’s now not reprimanding or denouncing moves by Democratic governors to rescind hide mandates in those states. In most cases politics and science, I guess, don’t align, Bret.
BAIER: Sure, intervening time, Matthew, the FDA extra or much less pulling lend a hand on the opportunity of childhood beneath five getting vaccines. And that doesn’t if truth be told instill self perception both in oldsters which will be already unnerved about whether their childhood would possibly perchance perchance per chance additionally mute salvage them.
MATTHEW CONTINETTI, AMERICAN ENTERPRISE INSTITUTE: No. However I would fairly err on the aspect of warning, especially in the occasion you would possibly perchance perchance per chance additionally very smartly be going thru the youngest, Bret. However the actual fact is, Biden is trapped by the CDC, by the FDA, and by Fauci, and by the academics’ unions, and that’s ended in him being out of touch and in the lend a hand of the folks on the COVID peril and reopening, and it will wound him in November.
BAIER: Jeff, the safe salvage you behold, as you discover on the landscape now, the midterms? Are Democrats, salvage they dangle got a blueprint for the arrangement they will assert the tide of what they behold wonderful now in the polls?
MASON: Well, as we realized in 2020, plenty can alternate in only some months. I mediate that wonderful now one thing that they’re observing is what occurs with the Supreme Court on the halt of this term on abortion. If Roe v Wade ends up getting struck down, then that will undoubtedly be something that Democrats employ to rob a discover at and energize their rotten.
However the various factors — COVID, the financial system, inflation, those are things wonderful now that Republicans will are attempting and employ and would possibly perchance perchance well undoubtedly employ efficiently to energise theirs. So it wonderful extra or much less depends upon upon what occurs in the following couple of months. Both basis now not simplest on the Supreme Court that I mentioned, nonetheless also on whether the inflation peril gets a limited bit bit higher and whether the COVID circumstances continue to reach lend a hand down.
BAIER: Sure. Obviously, Gillian crime and immigration enormous parts for Republicans wonderful now as smartly.
TURNER: Sure, also, Bret, the gerrymandering debate is raging on. All aspects are asserting that the various has extra to function from the educate. All aspects are also suing one one other on the affirm level. Truly that the political pollsters seem to be nice looking their narrative now and indicating that Democrats dangle a lot extra to function here, so that’s going to play into this as smartly.
BAIER: All wonderful, rapid Winners and Losers. Matthew, first to you, winner then loser.
CONTINETTI: My winner is Governor Jared Polis of Colorado who space the tone for Democrats opening up their states. My loser is Fresh York Metropolis Mayor Eric Adams who spent a vary of time this week speaking about his thought to institute vegan Fridays in Fresh York Metropolis public college lunch rooms. Eric Adams has one job, Bret, and that’s to lower crime. He must focal point on that and now not what’s in the lunch field.
BAIER: OK. Create now not show Harold Ford. Eric Adams is, he’s his guy. He goes to construct the Democratic Event. That is what he says.
All wonderful, Jeff, winner after which loser.
MASON: All wonderful, I’m going into sports actions for winners with the Joe Burrow and Matthew Stafford the 2 quarterbacks who are main their teams into the Sizable Bowl this weekend. They’re each winners now.
And for losers, or for a loser, fairly, Eric Lander, the science adviser who had to resign from the White Residence for the arrangement that he spoke to his crew.
BAIER: OK. Gillian?
TURNER: Staunch one. My winner is the relatives of victims of 9/11 who stand to be remunerated thru this Afghanistan variety of bounty that the president has now frozen. He goes to search out into giving half of of that to about 47 households. These are households who dangle been long overdue for these payments. The loser for me is Meta, the firm formerly identified as Fb. They lost about $250 billion in valuation in a single day per week ago, the wonderful devaluation in a 24-hour period in inventory market historic past.
BAIER: I salvage now not generally salvage this, because it is now not candidate on line casino, nonetheless round the horn I desire a winner for the Sizable Bowl and a obtain. Matthew?
CONTINETTI: Bengals over Rams, 31-28.
BAIER: All wonderful, Jeff?
MASON: I salvage now not dangle any belief.
BAIER: Near on.
MASON: I will fade with the Bengals, nonetheless I’m now not going to provide you a obtain.
BAIER: OK, no obtain. All wonderful, Gillian?
TURNER: Bret, is soccer the one with the round ball or the person that’s adore.
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TURNER: I salvage now not know anything about soccer.
BAIER: You sound adore Dana Perino.
TURNER: I’m now not going to mislead you guys.
BAIER: So you would possibly perchance perchance per chance additionally very smartly be wonderful going to circulate with the colour of the uniforms, what salvage you obtained?
TURNER: Can I fade with Tom Brady?
BAIER: He’s now not taking half in. However wonderful articulate the Bengals.
TURNER: Bengals, there you fade. That is what I meant to assert all along.
BAIER: There you to. All wonderful, guys, thanks.
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